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<p data-incom="P0">离开百度后的吴恩达，新成立了 DeepLearning.ai 公司。9 月 13 日，吴恩达在 Twitter 发推招兵买马。有人发现其官网的招软件工程师要求中有这样的措词：</p>
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<p data-incom="P2">我们希望你能很好适应我们的团队文化：</p>
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<li>工作道德强。我们所有人都相信我们的工作能够改变人类的生活，因此不仅聪明地工作，而且努力地工作。在办公室里看到一些团队成员工作到深夜，是很平常的事；我们中的许多人，每周工作和学习 70 个小时以上。</li>
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<p data-incom="P3">目前招人文案中是「每周工作和学习 70 小时以上」，但有网友指出之前是「70 ~ 90 小时」。虽然这样的措词并没有直接明确要求应聘者每周工作和学习至少 70 小时，综合开头的「我们希望你能很好地适应我们的团队文化」，意思很明确了。</p>
<p data-incom="P4">每周至少是 70 小时，</p>
<ul>
<li>如果每周 5 天，每天至少 14 小时；</li>
<li>如果每周 6 天，每天至少 11.6 小时；（这基本就是国内的「996」工作制了。）</li>
<li>如果每周 7 天，每天至少 10 小时；</li>
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<p data-incom="P5">所以这就引发广大开发圈的激烈讨论了。</p>
<p data-incom="P6">BestUsernameLeft：</p>
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<p data-incom="P7">对这种工作环境，我有直接体会。我自己做过两次（一次是自愿的，一次是要求的）；我已经两次看着同事们这样做了。</p>
<p data-incom="P8">在精神上，你变得不可能集中精力，也就不能有高质量的工作。你的推理能力和做出好决定的能力受到影响。在心理上，你慢慢变得易怒和急躁，随着时间的推移，压力也会导致身体问题。</p>
<p data-incom="P9">我不会说那是“永远不值得”。但如果每周做 60 小时以上的工作生活，请你在要做出决定前了解代价。</p>
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<p data-incom="P10">Susan J. Fowler：</p>
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<p data-incom="P11">每周工作 90 小时的人，写不出良好的代码。不知道你们为啥会想招那样的！</p>
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<p data-incom="P12">Farhad Manjoo：</p>
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<p data-incom="P13">我也搞不懂。虽然你们把要求公开透明是挺好的，但你们失去了很多有家室的潜在求职者。</p>
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<p data-incom="P14">cuminme69420：</p>
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<p data-incom="P15">我是 99% 支持的，像吴恩达这样的人每周想工作这么长，这的确没问题。毕竟有些人是真的对工作着迷。但是，我搞不明白的是，要求公司其他成员也是同样的工作时间。这种行为挺愚蠢。</p>
<p data-incom="P16">我想了想「如果你想在我公司工作就要遵循我的理念和热情」背后的逻辑。或许他们就是在过滤掉那些看重心理稳定性的人吧。在软件工程中，往往有一种特定人格的吸引，补充到那个角色中没有任何问题。</p>
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<p data-incom="P17">KneeDeepClunge：</p>
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<p data-incom="P18">就我个人来讲，我几乎从来没有每周工作达到 40 小时。因为这包括了每天午餐后的 1 小时休息。这样算来了，我每周实际上大约工作 35 小时。</p>
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<p data-incom="P19">qelsin：</p>
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<p data-incom="P20">在努力工作 8 小时候，我脑子就一团糟了。即便我真想做完某些事，我几乎不能集中精力，如果遇到这种情况，我也不得不强迫自己辞职了。我无法想象工作 12 – 16 小时后的，你脑子是什么样的状态了 。</p>
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<p data-incom="P21">icode2skrillex:</p>
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<p data-incom="P22">大约两年前，我每天工作约 16 小时，并且全年每天 24 小时（24 / 7 / 365）都随时手机/电话待命。我变得非常不快乐，非常胖，我和朋友和家人的关系正在衰退。我也和女朋友（现在的妻子）经常争吵，因为我们从来没有见过面或者有任何有意义的联系。</p>
<p data-incom="P23">我辞掉了那份工作，我现在每周工作 40 个小时。如果我们落后于项目，管理层并没有逼迫使我们加班，他们鼓励我们准时离开并与家人在一起，因为他们意识到工作质量下降了。自从接受了这份工作，我已经减肥 65 磅，和女朋友结婚了，有时间去寻找和买房子。更重要的是（也许是不全面的，但在我们软件工程师这种职业），我能够集中精力发展自己和我的能力，来获得提升。</p>
<p data-incom="P24">当我去面试时，我总是会问关于工作与生活的平衡，是不是要随叫随到，通常工作多少小时。因为我知道，如果我要持续工作超过 45-50 小时（或者比这更多的时间），我知道我的个人风险。</p>
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<p data-incom="P25">sensitiveinfomax:</p>
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<p data-incom="P26">不仅仅是心理健康的问题了。</p>
<p data-incom="P27">花这么多时间在工作上，意味着你没有别的活动了。你将无法发展有意义的人际关系，不会有健康的饮食习惯，也不会像你应该做的那样锻炼身体，也不会给你的家人提供帮助。</p>
<p data-incom="P28">这将是一个被阻碍的发展状态，除非你换工作。</p>
<p data-incom="P29">这样累是求啥呢？你很可能不会直接与 Andrew Ng 的工作。他很可能不知道你的名字。如果你有足够的资格在那里被聘了，你就可以得到一份工作时间少、薪水高、有声望的工作。</p>
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<p class="tagline" data-incom="P30">xian0：</p>
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<p data-incom="P31">每天工作 70 小时，他们是怎样安排的呢？。每天早八点到晚七点（午餐 1 小时），没有周末么？还是早七点到晚十点，周末双休？没有周末，似乎看起来更正常，但美国人通常也没有很多假期，所以总体上可能更糟。</p>
<p data-incom="P32">我记得，当人们坐在电脑一天要 9-12 小时，结果最后就是在玩 WOW 之类的游戏。</p>
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<p data-incom="P33">CSStudent15：</p>
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<p data-incom="P34">我老板每周工作 60 小时。这家伙没有什么爱好，他只是为了公司而活。挺可悲的，我想他除了公司，并不关心其他事。</p>
<p data-incom="P35">我永远不会在没有工作和生活平衡的公司工作。</p>
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<p>mjcov：</p>
<blockquote><p>让你每周工作超过 40 小时的唯一原因，那是你对公司的成长发展有着重大的兴趣。你可能是公司创办人或者合伙人。就我来说，我只是一个员工，我能换其他工作，我不必关心是不是因为我们做事不够快而导致公司在流失客户。招足够多的人去完成他们想做的事，这是某人的工作。我的意思是，我有时候会工作到很晚来救火，但我做的工作并不是那么重要，并不会因为我工作完成的晚了，就有人会受到严重伤害。</p>
<p>在面试时，我也常常会问工作/生活平衡，向现在的员工去打听了解。我考虑过每周工作 40 小时的弹性（比如：因为我要去的 DMV 是 5 点关门，我能否早点下班），还有每周超过 40 小时的频率。即便是每周工作 40 小时，我感觉自己没有足够多的时间做完所有的事。作为一只单身狗，情况就更惨了。因为所有的家务、购物这些都得自己做了。除了全职工作和睡眠，每天大概有 2-4 小时留给自己支配，可以是学习和我工作相关的东西，或者做个人项目。我不知道其他人是什么情况，尤其是那些家务没人帮的，每周工作 50+ 小时，并且还没有很快就职业疲倦的单身程序员，他们是怎么样做到的。</p></blockquote>
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<p data-incom="P36">当然了，既然有不认同这种工作时长的，就有认同的人。&#x1f602;&#x1f602;&#x1f602;  这不，吴恩达在 9 月 16 日有发一条推：</p>
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<p data-incom="P37">自从宣布了 deeplearning.ai 的新岗位，我们在 24 小时内收到大约 120 份的申请，48 小时内大约收到了 270 份。哇！</p>
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<p data-incom="P38">噢，对了，吴恩达他们官网招人说明中并没有说明薪资。在没有说明薪资的情况下，并且是高强度工作时间，还有这么多人申请，挺疯狂的。这或许也说明了吴恩达的吸引力吧。</p>
<p data-incom="P38"><span style="color: #ff0000;">对于这种类似国内 996 的，每周工作/学习 70+ 小时，你怎么看呢？</span></p>
<p data-incom="P39">参考：</p>
<p data-incom="P40">Twitter、Reddit、DeepLearning.ai</p>




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                <p>那妹子的话该怎么办（思考中。。。）</p>
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                <p>我就想知道他在百度每周工作<br />
70+？</p>
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                <p>如果是为自己喜爱的事，在一段时间内每周奋斗70+，我觉得我很理解，但这一切变成长期的强迫的时候，这样做只会让工作变得很无效，很糟糕，很没有意义</p>
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                <p>每周工作时间接近30个小时的我o(╯□╰)o</p>
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                <p>这无关兴趣的问题。编程是一个很特殊的工作，和研究数学不同。研究数学你只需要捧本书，趴在地板上写写画画。编程需要你运用体力，一个人连续坚持 6 小时编程，就是这个人的极限了，脑力和体力的综合极限，更多的时间，这个人只会产生垃圾。</p>
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<p>编程分为程序员和工程师。程序员从来不知道自己写的什么，为什么这么写。工程师则需要思考，他知道你的数学需求大多是不切实际的，机器 Machine 不会用你的思维去思考。想一下数学的 fibonacci，直接用数学家的思维，你根本无法写出可以运行的程序。这时候更多需要工程师的思维 --- 缓存、归并、...。</p>
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<p>所以，工程师不要跟一个数学老大混，会很累，他根本不知道坐在电脑前想 6 个小时的程序是什么感觉。</p>
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                <p>基本符合70小时以上了。。</p>
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                <p>工作和学习，并不全是工作，以我的无知程度，我愿意花更多的时间学习</p>
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                <p>坐等100+的公司出现</p>
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                <p>如同各大企业标出的学历红线，不过是一个过滤器罢了。</p>
<p>觉得不人道，只是说明不适合在那家工作罢了，指责这家公司没有道理，毕竟还没有爆出不给加班费的丑闻。</p>
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